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How to RP

Okay, before I get started: This wiki is NOT to say I am the best RPer in the world. It is NOT to say that this guide is the kickass ONLY way to RP. I’m not trying to insult anyone, and if I make a comment that you feel like it insults you personally, you need to de-sensitize your personality. I never go for insults when I’m teaching. I’m just saying, it’s something newbie’s (also called n00bs if they're obnoxious), and even some pro’s might want to read. This is for self-improvement: the only way to true enlightenment.

Here are the topics:

[#1]. Literacy
[#2]. Style of writing
[#3]. Fighting/power playing
[#4]. Character development/bio's
[#5]. Miscellaneous

Okay, so we begin with number 1! Literacy is a big issue, I’ve noticed, in any type of RPG’s.

Basically, there are a few key points I need to point out:

1. Do NOT, and I repeat, do NOT write as if you were chatting in an IM. Trust me; it’s as annoying as all hell. If you know the full word, use it. ‘u’ as ‘you’ is unacceptable. You will have good-to-expert RPer’s completely ignoring you. Moreover, it’s only two more letters-come ON. Typing is NOT a marathon. Just DO it.
2. Think about what you’re typing. If you’re a beginner, and you KNOW you suck at it, try not to use contractions. Contractions happen when you combine two words: 'do not' into ‘don’t’, 'it is' into ‘it’s’ etc. It helps a lot with practicing, until you just do it without thinking about it. Mainly, the problem with contractions is that people leave out the thingies (apostrophes, or whatever) coming up with ‘dont’, or they don’t know which type of ‘your’ to use, making ‘you're’, ‘your’ (for ‘you are’), and more and more.
3. Use the vocabulary you’re comfortable with. If you’re a good RPer, you’ll notice yourself using larger vocabulary. Don’t use words that you can’t spell, or proofread your posts.
4. Okay, capitalize, people! Add periods to break up your ultra-long sentences! And although, at one point, two periods were okay with an ellipses (singular: ellipsis; one of ‘...’ things), it’s not good anymore, because I said so and I’m always right! Plus, I have irrefutable evidence: Microsoft word goes all mini on ellipses, but only when they’re three dots long! Oooh, in your FACE! Anywho... When your character thinks, the appropriate thing to do is italicize the thought, although some people let you put <’s around the thought. Go to a wiki guide to figure out how to italicize. When your character speaks, put apostrophes “” around what he/she says. Otherwise, you confuse people, and when they make mistakes concerning your character, it’s all your fault! Of course, as pointed out to me, if your wiki is composed of people who all use the same way to do things, a small quirk in grammar or something, then I'm not one to dictate format. Just preaching the norm.
5. Please, please, please. Using asterisks (*) to describe actions is a slap on the face and a neon sign that says you’re an utter newbie to the RP scene. Make it into a story, using correct English grammar. *walks in* is not good. ‘He/she walks in’ IS. Please keep this in mind, although it’s not that big of a deal for Elftown.

Wrong: *walks in* Omg! teh girl thinks this place is the bomb! Hey gurl I love those totaly rockin shoes she says. Hey.. wheres the party?
Right: A girl walks into the room, looking about. Oh, my, God! the girl thinks. “This place is the bomb! Hey, girl-I love those totally rockin’ shoes!” she says. “Hey… Where’s the party?”

Now you know!

Onto the next subject: Style of writing!

You might think, Didn’t we just cover that? Well, yes and no. We covered ‘literacy’-and although some people might hate that word, it’s easier to type out than ‘the ability to write correctly using the accurate form of English spelling and grammar’. So there. We covered spelling and making your post easier to read-now we shall cover the correct way to type, tailored to Elftown wiki’s.

Some people in other RPG places might think that RPGing in ‘first person’ (talking from one person’s point of view using ‘I’) is useful, but in Elftown, it’s quite hard. You get this:

“I walk in, brushing hair out of my face. Looking about, I see there are some nice people standing around, doing nothing. I want to start dancing, because we need to get this party started!

I watch the strange, long-haired person begin to dance. I didn’t want to dance at all. This party does NOT need to get started-I just wanted out.”

In Elftown wiki’s, since it’s impossible to distinguish which sentence belongs to which user with a glance, the story becomes a long mess of strange contradictions. This is where another point of view, ‘third person’, comes into play. For those of you not yet in freshman English, or new to English, or just ignorant, third person is where the story is told from the point of view of one person, limited to his/her thoughts and actions, but using their name and him/her etc instead of ‘I’ or ‘mine’. For example: “Jill walked into the bar. Looking about, she saw a bunch of different people, and felt strange.” Then, if another person wants to add, they can say, “Tom noticed Jill and, seeing the look on the poor girl’s face, decided to make friends with her.” See how you can distinguish the different people in this style of writing? It’s much easier for everyone!

Recently (after I decided to write this), there was a VERY good thing pointed out to me by the fabulous-o [Jewl] (I like to give credit where credit is due). Before I point out what that thing is, take a look at her first example sentence:

"She walks in. 'Whats up, people?' She says. Then she sits down."

Some (although I know not all) might look a that sentence and then give me a look not unassociated with "What?!" Yes, the sentence IS grammatically correct. It is written in third person, it has punctuation marks, ALL used properly (although I edited slightly so I could quote the sentence, using MLA format... something you can ignore, for now). So what's the problem? The problem is that I would have to bite my tongue to stay awake reading that.

This point deals more with your ability to write interesting stories than it does with your ability to write correctly. Say you look at that sentence, and you think, "Hey, that's how I write! Exactly! Heck, I even used THAT sentence in a past RPG!" The key to self-improvement is to try and add details. The more details your sentences have, the better they'll seem. To add details, you might even start asking yourself questions: What would your character do here? If you were him/her, what would you be feeling? How would they say THIS? In fact, what would they say? What would his/her face look like? Where are they? Get into the story! That's why we RP, really. Because it's fun, and because we love to write. Now, here's Jewl's sentence, amplified with her imagination:

"She strolls in, looking around quizzically and smiling. She blushes slightly, saying, 'What's up, people?' softly. Then, after hearing no reply, she shuffles over to an old, beaten looking chair and plops down."

Ahhhh. That was MUCH more interesting.

Now you know!

Now we shall get down to some rough-and-dirty hard topics: Fighting and power playing. You might not realize it, but fighting in online RPG’s requires a lot of skill and honor. You must showcase your character’s abilities without power playing or over-doing it. For newbie’s, the term ‘power playing’ has yet to become familiar. Simply, power-players control the actions of other gamers, they create their characters to be super-powerful and utterly control the battlefield, and they have no shame with causing their character to disobey even simple laws of physics. They infiltrate ANY role-playing forum there is, and are especially annoying to experienced RPer’s. It might be morally incorrect, but my solution is to become a power-player myself (a gift given to the master of the RP to use wisely) and cause their character to explode randomly. Why? Because I'm malicious. You'll probably get lucky and have a nicer RP master, in which case you'd just better be nice back. So, for newbie’s, and even some professionals, listen up!

PLAYING DO’S AND DON’TS:
DO let your fellow RPer’s talk for themselves.
DO NOT control, in any way, any of the actions or thoughts of your fellow RPer’s (you made them look up to notice your character, for example-let them do that for themselves!).
DO let your fellow RPer’s have a chance for action before you create the story practically by yourself.
DO NOT make your post so long it practically encompasses a villain (he shows up, you kill him, he’s dead). That is what we call ‘too much text and ego, and now our eyes hurt’.
DO NOT make your character sickeningly perfect (to be covered when I write about making a bio).
DO NOT read other’s thoughts. If they didn’t say it, you don’t know it. If they’re feeling something, don’t automatically guess what it is. I know some people who, every other post they make, guess the true feelings of every person in the room, even to the extent of correctly answering unasked questions. YOU ARE NOT A PSYCHIC.
DO try and stick with your character’s personality. It’s hard, sometimes, but just remember basic traits. It’s strange when a passive character turns evil and cruel, snapping at random people.

(Remember! There is an exception to every rule, except that one. Use good judgment. Do not drink and RP, because friends don't let friends... live in glass houses, or something.)

Really, be true to life. If you can’t do it in real life, short of some magic, try not to do it in an RPG (eg: Matrix-style fights with a bartender from Houston, Texas). This is a hint many great authors take, with exceptions to special characters. You’ll do well to take it, also.

Now to the fighting, the hard part of any RP. Thank goodness there was a nice, long article about the three types of fighting so I didn’t have to research anything.

The three types of fighting: True, Cheeze, and Mix. You only have to pay attention to ‘True’, although you might read more.

True is based on creativity and honor. Attack your opponent, then WAIT to see if you hit. Sometimes you will land a punch, as your opponent feels necessary. This is where honor comes in: the other opponent must think and wonder if their character could truly block it. True fighting is very hard, as the power play level is down to NOTHING, but someone has to lose. That’s the way it is in a fight. (Note: a more obscure rule of True that some people observe is that with a poorly-written attack ("bob wanna hit tom and swings swoordy") then the damage can’t do anything ("Tom laughs at the babyish Bob, the sword breaking on his mighty abdomen muscles of doom"). I don’t know if you’d observe it, but it kind of counts as power play, so explain your reason to your opponent first.)

Cheeze is stereotypically favored by newbie’s. You base it on blood and gore, with the most violent attack inflicting the most damage. Crushing a spinal cord into dust as you gouge out eyes and rip any intestines out through their ear? More points for you. The opponent can go ‘ouch’ and heal himself, a point of True Cheeze (a variation). They describe their agony as their intestines leave their body and eyes and spinal cord are kinda shot, but then they cast a slight rejuvenation spell and continue fighting, however weakly. Hard Core Cheeze is different. You can completely ignore the opponent’s attacks, absorb them, whatever. It goes on and on and on… and on and on and on, until someone gives up. Requires endurance, yes, a good point, but it’s annoying as hell.

Mix is, well, a mix of Cheeze and True. You attack as brutally as Cheeze, but you also give your opponent time to look out. Maybe even let them react before you attack them fully.

With any attacks, you must recognize hits to your person. However, the style most loved on Elftown is True. Usually, you fight with another user, and nobody likes a power player. True gives your opponent time to react. The honor part I cannot stress enough. Have weaknesses! Make your character run into walls! And on the other side, make sure you don’t utterly destroy them with the first attack! Have some shame, people!

Now you know!

Now onto the more fun part of the speech: your characters! A lot of RPer’s do RPing because, simply, the joy in obsessing over their characters. Quite a few hardcore RPer’s have a single character they reuse in every RP they visit (although some hardcore RPer’s are annoying, inasmuch as their character is invincible-and they’ve used it for so long, any changes to make him/her weaker are shunned). Some more flexible ones just create different characters for every RP, or most of their RP’s, reusing a few aspects.

You’ll hear more rants about species than anything else. Mention ‘half angel, half demon’ characters to certain people, and they go INSANE. I mean, rabid coyote insane. A lot of people react the same way with vampire characters. My take? If you have good background, then go for it. Really, yes, certain things are overused-but there are a good hundred-thousand RPer’s out there. Which means you HAVE species that are reused, duh. Vampires are popular because yes, they are cool, believe it or not. You cross a few species because you want to be original, you inspire a couple of people, and you got yourself a trend that annoys advanced people. Ignore them. If you have fun with your character, and they’re not all-powerful, who’s to say that the critics matter? Just have fun, be imaginative, and chances are nobody will really care!

For a moment, let's bring the subject of powerplaying up, once more. Anybody can accidentally make their character overly powerful, which is a form of powerplaying. There are many instances of people doing this. [Dark Adherent] said it best when he said, "Well, there are some when you play a god, and others when you may just be an elf or a human, with obscenely great skills...One thing that shouldn't be done is bringing an extremely powerful character into an rp where people play under-powered characters." We cannot emphasize this enough. Making your character hugely gifted with whatever they can do, enough so that they could wipe out the other characters just by batting their eyes rapidly (hyperbole, but whatever), is unfair. Yes, there are some wiki's that are made up of God's... But they have their rules, too, and you're among other super-powerful characters. Stealing the show is mean.

What you might do in the above case is BE super-powerful, but unable to use it... Or, you could be super-powerful but unwilling to use it. VERY unwilling. You should always try to start off an RP at the same level as everyone else. Different things can equalize other things in other characters (very intelligent=very good at fighting, or very rich=very good at fighting).

Anyway, a bio/profile is an important part of a character, here on Elftown. Most of the time, it’s so you don’t have to write out every detail of a complicated-looking character with your first post-people can read a bio and determine these obvious details themselves. They also provide background, which is fun to read. The main rule of bio’s: You read stuff in them you couldn’t possibly know about, and you must act like you don’t know about it in the RP. You read they have a terminal illness, but they look like they could do a five-minute mile at any moment? Don’t mention it.

Here’s a basic outline of a bio (most masters have bio forms pre-made, some with less):

Your username. This is so in the comment’s box, we know which character you play. Other information might be asked of you, but usually you don’t have to supply it.
Your character’s name. This is to match the bio with the character. Include nicknames etc.
Sex: If you write ‘yes please’ you will die two paragraphs in, I can almost guarantee it. Specify female, male, or both like everyone else.
Your character’s age. They don’t have to act it. A common occurrence is to say ‘they’re over a million years old and they look 15’. Pry yourself away from that habit-it’s overdone and not all that possible (can you look humanoid when you're 2 billion years old?)
Species of your character: this is sometimes restricted, sometimes not. Humans CAN be fun to play, believe it or not!
Appearance: Go into as much detail as you want. I like my character to look unique but no overly so. Some people write pages, and seem almost egotistical-you’d need a picture to keep all the details in your mind.
Personality: As mentioned above, stick with one type, and maybe incorporate flaws. Those people who are sensitive, nice, and yet angry and a loner all at the same time are a little strange. Those who are SUPPOSED to hate attention and company usually, by fault of the RPer, become all lonely and friendly, while their bio says ‘barely makes friends, and doesn’t care!’ or some crap like that. Get over your inherent need to make friends in a RPG or admit it and make your character clingy!
Strengths/Weaknesses: Include fighting styles/magic you possess. If you're 16, it's highly unlikely that you are master wizard of the world, because you're still going through puberty. Come on. Additionally, GOOD RPer’s (cough) include at least one major weakness. If your character is just weak overall (no magic and slightly a pacifist) you can make the major weakness strange and fun if slightly useless (deathly afraid of the color mauve) (hehe). Sometimes, a person might just put for a weakness, "Is just overall weak!" because that happens.
Magic/Weapons: Sometimes there’s another category to put your fighting style/weapons/style of magic. Please don’t say you have every conceivable form of magic there ever was and will be. That’s power playing, and annoying to boot. If they’re good at magic, then they’re old and specialize in one or two types of magic, unless they're very special (see above about being super-powerful in an RPG of not-as-powerful people). So there.
History: You may also have fun doing this. Write everything about your character’s history, even if they themselves don’t remember (like, an amnesia person). Some people like to say ‘unknown’ and leave it up to people to figure it out and hey, I like surprises. Go for it, although it ticks a few people off. However, then you don’t get to show off your cool writing skillz. Plus, with an above rule, even if your past is known, you can always make it unknown by not talking about it. However, when it boils down to it, people make histories just to have fun. Most other RPer’s are hoping you’ll pry into their histories too much to pry into yours. Any mention of history on your part is a desperate plea of attention, because let’s face it, no RPG really sits around and asks about your past... Usually. So have fun with your history for the character building of it all.

If your character’s personality seems to change as you develop him/her, you might want to add that to your bio.

Thank you to [Slinky] for helping me out: "just a suggestion, it's helpful, but not necessary: before joining a game and creating your character, it's usually a good idea to read at least a bit of what's been happening in the game so far, and to read the bios of characters that already exist. In this way, you can shape your character to compliment the characters that already exist. For example, if the currently playing group has a bunch of people who are good in various fighting aspects, perhaps you can choose to be a magic user of some sort, to sort of balance out the party. or if all of the other characters are ditzy and dumb and mostly there for comic relief (which is perfectly fine), then you can create a smart character to help lead the party to it's goals and whatnot (this isn't a fun job, usually, but it's nice if it's done)"
(I quoted, not paraphrased, because I'm lazy. And it's good the way it is!)

~Good bio’s~

Here, I’ll put down bio’s that I admire and say why, and some that I don’t-but will give constructive criticism. If you see a bio here you like, use it for, I dunno, a formula of a good bio. But don't copy the character. Because that's just stoopid, and I don't want people sending me messages about all the people who copied their really original idea. Send me yours through a message! (And tell me that it's for here, because I have random people send me bio's all the time... For some reason...)

Biography Examples

~Miscellaneous~

Some other wiki's that explain it better/just as good as I:
Language Rules
So, You Want To RP?
A lesson in spelling
TB-RPG Community Center
Character Building Guide
Role Playing for Dummies
Writing Help
The Ultimate Character Guide
Role-Play

This page is still kind of under construction.

I hope you enjoyed it! I also hoped you learned something. Remember, you may still say to yourself that you never do anything like this-but sometimes you might; you just have to catch yourself doing it. Good luck in the RP world!

-[kay-chan]

(PS: I am only human. Point out any spelling/grammar mistakes in this scary-ass wiki, but do it politely. Also, since I'm still a learning RPer meself, comments/suggestions are welcome! I am in complete awe of anyone who says they can RP, not knowing if they can or not, so I will definitely take your advice to heart and give you credit. Unless, of course, you're wrong or anything. If you make a guide, or find another one, feel free to share it with me! I'll post a link here, of course!)

2004-12-17 [Dark Adherent]: *feels special, in his own sort of way* Hmm...>>

2004-12-18 [Eli-kun]: ::wraps his arms protectively around Kay-chan:: I am the only stalker in this room.

2004-12-19 [muffin_killer]: *bites eli's arm*

2004-12-19 [kay-chan]: *T.T at Eli, as well* You know, I'm sure there's room in the wood chipper for two...

2004-12-19 [Slinky]: me and eli can be wood chipper buddies!

2004-12-20 [Dark Adherent]: *sits quietly as Jimmy comes back from maiming the mail man and they both sit and watch* Interesting...O.o

2004-12-23 [Eli-kun]: ::drops Kay with the bite and the threats:: You had me at pain. ::glares at Miss Killer::

2004-12-23 [muffin_killer]: *glares back, still latched on*

2004-12-23 [kay-chan]: *doesn't really want to break it up* Hey, you deserve it. (That and she'll latch on to me if she's free...)

2004-12-24 [Eli-kun]: I give up! I have no willpower! Please don't beat me just to watch me flinch! Go bite Kay-chan!

2004-12-24 [Dark Adherent]: *blinks* Yes...this is -definately- interesting O.o

2004-12-24 [kay-chan]: *cheers for mk* Bite his arm off! Bring me back a souvenir!

2004-12-25 [muffin_killer]: *shakes her head like she is a dog playing with a tug-a-war rope toys*

2005-01-03 [Dark Adherent]: *eats popcorn and watches* Noice...

2005-01-08 [Eli-kun]: This, for whatever reason, hurts. ::faints::

2005-01-09 [Jeesum Crowe]: I linked your guide over at my guide So, You Want To RP?.

2005-01-09 [muffin_killer]: *cries at Eli* STOP BEING MEAN TO ME!!! *gives kay a scared hug/protect me*

2005-01-09 [kay-chan]: *latched onto mk* Yeah, Eli, how dare you?! Fainting like that, you *****! *blushes* And thank you, Jeesum. Your site is nice, I want to link to it!

2005-01-11 [Eli-kun]: ::begins to cry along with [muffin_killer]:: I think you both are being terribly mean to ME!

2005-01-11 [muffin_killer]: yes, but I have an excuse--I'm taking these stupid steroids to fix my blood, but they make me moody *burries herself in kay, like she has been almost all of today*

2005-01-11 [nokaredes]: uggg, steroids.

2005-01-11 [kay-chan]: *goes O.O then ^.^ at the thought of mk burying herself in Kay* Yes, she is sick, how dare you cry, Eli?! Ha! She wins!

2005-01-12 [Dark Adherent]: *looks about, then at Jimmy* So how was your day boy?

2005-01-27 [Eli-kun]: I die in defeat.

2005-01-27 [muffin_killer]: I always win ^^ *beams* 'specially when kay decides because she's my leaky muffin and I am her widdle flaming dictionary and you are his cheesebuger, his yummy cheeseburger, he'll wait for yooou *girly sigh*

2005-01-27 [kay-chan]: *rolls about* Ah, Larry... although someone else sang that song... Yes, mk always wins, because she is much cuter than you.

2005-02-17 [Dark Adherent]: Hey Kay, I actually thought of something that seems as if it should be pretty universal to players on ET rps. It's pretty simple really, the better writers and more experienced rper's are entitled to stronger characters, for obvious reasons. Mainly, they can write better, so they're not just like "Whoohaa swings his giant sword and cuts all the warriors in half!" it'd be more like "Whoohaa draws his weapon, zipping about rapidly through the enemy ranks, effectively tearing away at their numbers as he moves, diminishing their cause." And...us veterans are more experienced, and controlled. We know how to keep our strong characters in check. Just a suggestion you might like to add here.

2005-02-17 [Slinky]: that's a good idea, dark, except in practice, everyone thinks they're a good writer... and there's no real way to define how "experienced" you should be before you have a strong character. anyways, when creating a new character, it's usually better to have a weaker one to start with, so you have room to grow and stuff

2005-02-17 [Dark Adherent]: Hah, I know what you mean about people thinking they're good writers. But it's obvious when those who think they're good, are put to the test against someone who truelly is. Often times, people who aren't that good at writing get very repetitive, whereas a good writer knows many different words for one definition. *grins* Good writers also know how to make up words that 'sound' like a real word, all big and fancy and stuff...even if it's not real >>

2005-02-17 [herrschneemann]: That's actually a characteristic of the English language that fascinates me. I wish I could do that as much in French

2005-02-17 [Dark Adherent]: *laughs* I did it on my last rp post...I put up 'slaunters' for something...I forget what exactly but I think my character was getting up during a fight...I laughed when I typed it XD

2005-02-19 [kay-chan]: i is a good ritrr! i kill u all wit mad l33b skillz!!!11one! I don't wanna define people, and say 'you have more abilities' than others. I say the power of your character is up to the owner of the wiki, and you should keep it at the level of the other's in your current RP group unless they trust you. Otherwise, you might tick someone off, who's all like 'Hey, I read 'How to RP' (TM) and i thought it was a bad idea to do super-powerful characters' or something... It's all relative. ^.^ Peace, I'm outs!

2005-02-22 [Insaniac Yoshie]: *is blinded by all the words*

2005-02-23 [kay-chan]: Yeah, I got the same reaction when I saw it again...

2005-02-24 [Insaniac Yoshie]: so is this basically a place to discuss our views of RPing? im really in the middle when it comes to experiece good enough to help those who are just starting but not good enough to duke it out with some one whose been doing this for like ever

2005-02-24 [kay-chan]: The comment box is a place to talk about RPing. Well, RPing and pokemon. *glares at previous pokemon commentors* So if you have anything you'd like to talk about, go ahead! We love opinions... I do, at least...

2005-02-24 [Dark Adherent]: >, << Opinions are like asses, everyone's got them...and some are good and some are bad ~_^ XD *Runs away before he's beat to death* >>;

2005-02-24 [herrschneemann]: So yeah, the ultimate pokémon team in my opinion is Aracanine, Golem, Skarmory, ... :P

2005-02-24 [kay-chan]: *whacks herr with a Pokemon plushie* Yeah, well, opinions are fun to have. So then you can be opinionated! ^.^

2005-02-25 [Insaniac Yoshie]: lol well... um... i forgot all my opinions at the moment. what i really need is some one whose good at RPing so i can ractise my RPing with out looking like an idiot in front of untold numbers of people

2005-02-25 [herrschneemann]: just start a wiki and force people to join it. Nobody'll notice if you make a few mistakes nor will they care I think (unless they're major mistakes) BUT the fact that you are worried about your roleplay skills shows that you are above the morons that ruin wikis by blowing up the universe with their inflating heads.

2005-02-25 [Aeolynn]: lol

2005-02-25 [kay-chan]: Good point...

2005-02-26 [Insaniac Yoshie]: lol thank you i think... what iv noticed that i need help in the most tho is wording. i find myself being very repetitive. and when im not i end up being unclear

2005-02-26 [Ramirez]: What eminent wiki. I love this place. I think I'll make a link to it.

2005-02-27 [herrschneemann]: Good to know. Pheonix, seems you just generaly need practice in narrative text. You can do that writting up short stories in Word or something.

2005-02-27 [Dark Adherent]: *coughs* Spell out your words too. >> 95% if not more role players don't like to see 'u' 'tho' '4' or anything else. It looks really tacky and such.

2005-02-27 [Insaniac Yoshie]: Yes. Well, not all of us are good typers and still have to look at the keyboard to type. And when you have a time limit on the computer, it just makes it esier and faster to 'shorten' the words where possible. I do know to type properly in RPs and such, as you would have noticed if you saw my other RP posts and about half of my house.

2005-02-27 [kay-chan]: ^.^ Thank you, Ramirez. And now, you people, stop fighting... Phoenix Ashes can work on typing without looking (I remember learning that! o.O) and the rest of you can work on not poking the intermediate RPer with a stick... I, myself, shall be working on learning how to chug. Ikki, ikki!

2005-02-27 [Dark Adherent]: I'm not fighting or poking her with a stick. Phoenix and I are buds, aren't we? ^^;

2005-02-27 [Insaniac Yoshie]: sure we are!!! =(^.^)= *pokes dark* hehehe... inside joke...

2005-02-28 [kay-chan]: Hee, then it's okay.

2005-02-28 [muffin_killer]: *bites kay*

2005-02-28 [kay-chan]: *bites back and pokes mk in an innapropriate place* :P

2005-02-28 [Slinky]: *gropes kay's elbow, trying to out-do the previous inside joke*

2005-02-28 [Aeolynn]: I can't help if I am a wiki-nazis, I hate big ego type people... like the ones that say they are SO powerful that they could blow up a universe....

2005-02-28 [herrschneemann]: But then there are these people that don't necessarily repeat into everyone of their posts that they could blow up the universe, yet they still act like they could.

2005-02-28 [muffin_killer]: don't make me bite your boob, kay >.<

2005-03-01 [Insaniac Yoshie]: whose biting whose boob?! *gets all excited*

2005-03-01 [kay-chan]: Grin, strut. Go ahead, mk. That's kinky. *huge fake wink* Yeah, those people are annoying... You wanna go "whoops, stabbed ya with something shiney, ya die, m'bad."

2005-03-01 [Insaniac Yoshie]: lol wish it was that easy bc then they come at ya with 'well doesnt matter im immortal ne ways.'

2005-03-01 [Slinky]: then u start a wild orgy in the wiki. or at least, that's what me and kay do ^_^ mk just explodes

2005-03-01 [kay-chan]: That's why it's fun to be the wiki master. "And then they EXPLODE. Into a million bajillion pieces, and since bajillion isn't a real number they disappear FOREVER DIE DIE DIE."

2005-03-01 [Insaniac Yoshie]: hehehe hey i might be starting an RP here soon

2005-03-01 [kay-chan]: Oooh, the wild orgy was fun. But she didn't get it at first. That was even more fun. ^.^

2005-03-01 [Aeolynn]: [Tielandros] wanted his char to do something big...cant remember what... but I threatened to make his char gay...

2005-03-01 [Slinky]: isn't controlling the sexual orientation of someone else's character sort of powerplaying?

2005-03-01 [Dark Adherent]: Seems so to me...O.o;

2005-03-01 [Insaniac Yoshie]: but what if that characte want that to be controled?

2005-03-01 [Dark Adherent]: IF Tiel had given Aeo control of what his character liked sexually, her threat to him wouldn't have carried much weight. O.o

2005-03-01 [Insaniac Yoshie]: lol oh yeah sry blonde moment...

2005-03-02 [kay-chan]: I just threaten to involve a lot of blood in their destruction, or something to that effect. Or... wild orgy!

2005-03-02 [Insaniac Yoshie]: *has the odd feeling kay likes orgies*

2005-03-02 [kay-chan]: *innocent look* Now where do you get THAT idea?

2005-03-02 [Insaniac Yoshie]: hm... i dunno...

2005-03-02 [muffin_killer]: I still like making their heads magnetically attract arrows/swords/axes/daggers etc.

2005-03-02 [Dark Adherent]: Them randomly stepping in a pool of liquid hot magma at the most in-opurtune times works nicely as well. ^^

2005-03-02 [Insaniac Yoshie]: or an inconvinent fit of madness on our part seems to work

2005-03-02 [kay-chan]: Well, I think any time you step into a pool of liquid hot magma is a inopportune time.

2005-03-03 [Aeolynn]: I made the wiki, and I AM a wiki-nazis, therefore I could do it.

2005-03-03 [Slinky]: well, this wiki sorta does nothing BUT talk about how you shouldn't be a wiki nazi, so... yeah

2005-03-03 [Slinky]: hm, there's a thought: kay, why don't u have a section that talks about how to be a good wiki master?

2005-03-03 [kay-chan]: Heh, that's a good idea... I'll have to do it later, though.

2005-03-03 [nokaredes]: ooh ooh, I know one! *waves hand*

2005-03-03 [nokaredes]: *doesn't wait* don't forget to watch the wiki. *nods sage-like*

2005-03-03 [kay-chan]: ...who would forget to watch their own wiki? I hope you're not talkin' from personal experience... ^.^;;

2005-03-04 [nokaredes]: .> .........maaaaybe.......

2005-03-04 [herrschneemann]: there's a magical little button that alerts you whenever there's a change to a wiki

2005-03-04 [nokaredes]: I know...I may or may not have forgotten to click it after starting a new wiki...more than once...or something...

2005-03-04 [muffin_killer]: I do that too sometimes... or I accidentally click the "stop watching this page" button and wonder why the other people aren't updating ^^

2005-03-04 [nokaredes]: Sometimes, on some wikis where there are a lot of comments, ET decides to stop telling me there are wiki-comments...I go to the wiki fully intending to yell COMMENT! and there are comments. pages and pages of comments that I haven't read >.<

2005-03-04 [Aeolynn]: ... a page about being a good wiki master... technically being a little controlling about things is being a nazis, like what a species can do? *hint hint to Kay and MK*

2005-03-04 [Slinky]: no, specifying a species abilities in a game is not being controlling. different sources will tell you different things about the same species. take modern literature, even: in Ella Enchanted, the centaur cannot talk or even think, and is no smarter than a goldfish. in the Xanth series, centaurs are KNOWN for their logic and reasoning skills.

2005-03-04 [nokaredes]: Vampires.

2005-03-04 [Aeolynn]: true, but there is nothing wrong with controling your wiki because you dont want it to degrade, but in order to do so, you must be a nazis... plus I have only done that with 2 of my wikis, not much of a percentage.

2005-03-04 [Slinky]: it depends on the extent of control u have on your wiki... if there's a player who's buggin you, you should either "discourage" his/her participation (with wild orgies, violence, etc), or ask him/her to leave/shape up. but playing someone else's character without their permission, under ANY circumstance, is a big no-no, whether or not it's your wiki.

2005-03-04 [Aeolynn]: I have NEVER done that, just threatened him... ^.^;;

2005-03-04 [kay-chan]: Hey, hey. Telling the species boundaries is just setting a time frame. We wanted it fit to a specific genre, not LOTR-and there are no horse-people in ancient times. Plus, it would be nice to maintain a level of consistency, and tell you what to expect if you were to meet those species if we controlled them. And trust me, the whole 'elf is noble or super-human or really just great' thing gets old (one of our more drastic differences). Our version is THE original, but today, it's just plain original. But yeah, after that long paragraph in our defense... We're not being nazi's. (We could start... *subtle hint*)

2005-03-04 [herrschneemann]: The level of nazi-controller you have to be is proportionnal to the level of nazi-controlling players that play in your wiki I think. Some people unconsciously start changing stuff to someone's original wiki and that's where you have to be controlling and put a line. If everybody cooperates nicely then there is no reason for naziness.

2005-03-04 [Aeolynn]: well, the dude wanted to change crap and I said no. He kept bugging me about it till I threatened him, then he called me a nazis.

2005-03-04 [herrschneemann]: Well, we can't assume that we are always dealing with intelligent and comprehensive human beings.

2005-03-04 [Aeolynn]: ...he actually is very smart and has Rped with me for about 2 years now...

2005-03-04 [kay-chan]: ...Do the Fuego dance! Fuego, fuego, fue-fue-fue fuego!

2005-03-05 [herrschneemann]: Well from what you've told us he's missing the second part of my statement, which is comprehensive. *joins in the fire dane and sings "Feu, feu, joli feu!"*

2005-03-05 [Steel Mal'ak]: Holy crap this page is just too much! Go to How 2 RP for a short n' sweet guide to RPing.

2005-03-05 [nokaredes]: *gasp* advertising!

2005-03-05 [Aeolynn]: no kidding. This one is better!!! *sticks out tongue* just look at the title! How 2 RP... almost like a How to be fat yet skinny at the same time... oops, sorry, rambling...

2005-03-06 [muffin_killer]: ... *not quite following Aeol's logic* ...um... Yeah, our guide (technically it's kay's, but whatevah) could kick your guide's BUTT!

2005-03-06 [herrschneemann]: (Aeol was saying how the title was contradicting itself, how to RP yet spelling like retard). And this guide is soooo much better, just because we get to talk about pokémon here too.

2005-03-06 [kay-chan]: Mwahaha. [Steel Mal'ak] just made my ego increase. My guide is a guide. Your's is a summary; this means that it's a wannabe (meaning doesn't cover much) guide for bad RPers who don't like to read. Thus contradicting what the guide's purpose is for. My guide spits on your titsy blurb with the incredibly badly spelled version of my title. Mwahaha.

2005-03-06 [Dark Adherent]: *laughs and points* Ours is better ours is better!!! XD

2005-03-07 [Aeolynn]: LOL My logic is unreasonable to anyone not my species! Aeolians are endangered!

2005-03-30 [Insaniac Yoshie]: wow talky to muchy....

2005-04-06 [nokaredes]: Yep.

2005-04-07 [Insaniac Yoshie]: *looks dazed and mystifyed* wow... some one actually said a word

2005-04-07 [kay-chan]: It's a little shocking to encounter, but I assure you, it does happen.

2005-04-07 [Insaniac Yoshie]: really truely? *dazed by the 'word'

2005-04-08 [nokaredes]: Oh, not MY word! O.o My word!

2005-04-08 [kay-chan]: 'tis the Word of Hyperharmonie, truly 'tis.

2005-04-08 [nokaredes]: >.>

2005-04-08 [Slinky]: Word.

2005-04-09 [Insaniac Yoshie]: O.O *ish crushed under the sudden pile of 'words'*

2005-04-09 [kay-chan]: Isn't it ironic that the slang term 'word' IS a word? Or does that amuse only I...?

2005-04-09 [Insaniac Yoshie]: for shizzle my nizzle

2005-04-09 [kay-chan]: Peace, I'm outz.

2005-06-06 [Shiorysm]: this wiki is very good!!

2005-06-06 [Insaniac Yoshie]: *had nothing what so ever to do with its good ness* thank yuo! ^.^

2005-06-06 [kay-chan]: Heehee. ^.^ Thank you, [Shiorysm]!

2005-07-10 [Shining light]: This is a great guide, Kay-chan. You seem to have encompassed all the major details, as well as a few more. Well done.

2005-07-10 [herrschneemann]: All this praising will get to her head some day ...

2005-07-11 [Slinky]: not if i eat it first! her head, that is...

2005-07-11 [herrschneemann]: Go! Quick! Before it turns sour :P

2005-07-12 [kay-chan]: No! I actually use that sometimes! And thank you, [Shining light], that was very kind of you. ^.^

2005-10-14 [stuffAEAmade]: Hrrm. Perhaps when my workload dies down, I'll join an RP.

2005-10-14 [kay-chan]: Workload, shmurkload. I'm busy, but I procrastinate JUUUUST enough... *writing a section paper she just remembered was due tomorrow* ^.^ I hope ye have fun doing it, too.

2005-10-14 [Dark Adherent]: Lol, tsk tsk tsk Kay kay =P Gl getting it finished XD

2005-10-14 [kay-chan]: XD Meh, it was like 2 pages. Not that hard. Of course, I failed to mention all the other assignments that popped up (due today!) along the way of completing everything... I'm so absent-minded, it's horrible.

2005-10-17 [Dark Adherent]: Lol, well, good luck again XD

2005-12-01 [Emporer Sensi]: Wow.....How 2 Rp Isn't that ironic.....

2005-12-01 [kay-chan]: Very ironic, seeing as how they put '2' for 'to' in a webpage about respectable RPing... :P

2005-12-01 [Emporer Sensi]: Ha ha ha...it's cause YOU already picked the proper way...

2005-12-01 [nokaredes]: You could have picked How to RP...

2005-12-01 [Emporer Sensi]: Yeah.....I know that now...but when it came to be, I was in a hurry. I had to get that page up like last second, for my main Rp.

2005-12-01 [kay-chan]: But... but... but! I looked later (I made this and thought I was original :P) and how 2 rp was started before how to rp! Mebe it was just to draw in those people who use net speak...? :3

2005-12-01 [Emporer Sensi]: mebe?Ok whatever, That ONE wiki, out of like a 25 wikipage long RP. It was done in haste.

2005-12-01 [kay-chan]: Haha, I'm just joking... I'm not picking on you... RIGHT NOW. Bwahaha!

2005-12-01 [Emporer Sensi]: OK, look I should...well.....I DO owe an apology to you Kay-Chan. Soooo yeah there ya go.....

2005-12-01 [kay-chan]: Ppphhhffffbbt. I've already forgotten.

2005-12-01 [Emporer Sensi]: Yeah well your friend there Meradoiajd;olksnvsdfv however it's spelled, Isn't so ...forgiving....Owell, I just don't like it when some one doesn't like me....

2005-12-02 [kay-chan]: :X and I don't like it when people think I don't like them...

2005-12-03 [Emporer Sensi]: Do you like me? O.o?

2005-12-03 [muffin_killer]: Kay's mine!!!! *hugs her protectively*

2005-12-03 [Emporer Sensi]: hey....not like that. it was supposed to end as a joke....

2005-12-04 [kay-chan]: Haha, she ruined the joke. Well, I'm no longer annoyed with you, if that's what you mean... *sneakily gropes [muffin_killer]*

2005-12-04 [muffin_killer]: *bites her shoulder*

2005-12-04 [Emporer Sensi]: K leaving now. HAve fun

2005-12-04 [kay-chan]: Okay, bye. *gnaws on mk*

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: Um, I came her on a whim seeing it on the adoption page, and before I comment on any of yoru works, I have to read it all...however on your first sentence may I point out that, its not called an eclipse, its called and elipse... Also I find it perfectly fine to use any method for indicating thoughts, as long as its universally understood and comprehended by everyone in that particular rp as a thought. Such as in certain wikis I have run before, It was fine as long as everyone knew, that anything said outside of "" was to be an action, everyting within ' ' was to be thought as a thought and everything in "" was obviously the character talking. However one could employ Italics

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: --whenever one pleased.

2005-12-13 [kay-chan]: Okay, as long as that's very clear to everyone within your own wiki, I see no problem with it. I mean, I was just going off of what was accepted by everyone else I knew, and my own experience. And as for the *ellipses* (yeah, we were both wrong a bit) thing, I'll go change that.

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: OMG,...this is good, you are quite good. I totally want to refer like a thousand people to your page, I want your page advertised more on elftown. So far I haven't read half of what you have written, and this is definetly good material. Some people really need to be told these things...Can I advertise your wiki??

2005-12-13 [kay-chan]: Eheheheh, sure, I don't mind in the least. ^.^;

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: I, would just like to talk to you about organization. I haven't read the whole thing yet, not to be arrogant myself, but this is more of a manual on something I already know how to do lols, so It may take a bit of a while, because you have quite alot of material. However, I can't say your organization is bad, it doesnt seem to be, and not yet...however, I would like to take your topics as posted at the tops of the wiki, and turn them into links to sections on the wiki. This is simply to make it easier for some people to see certain parts of you wiki immediately. I feel it makes it more organized. Also, if you were to add dividers between the specific sections, and make the sections more

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: obvious that would make the page more organized as well. Ex.-using <*h2*> or bolding the names of where they are in the wiki...like literacy and ect...

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: The easier it is for learning Roleplayers to access the informatin helpful to there rp'ing skills the better off all Roleplayers are lols...

2005-12-13 [kay-chan]: I might do that later. When I'm not sick.

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: Well...hehe, I am not asking you to do it lols, I am asking if you will let me do it ^_^...you dont have to do anything, not even give me the password..I will just copy your wiki with everything in it onto another page and edit it there:)...then you can look at it, and change what you like and edit it into your own page as you please:). I am nuerotic, and If I like the contents of the page, I like to try to make the page look better thats all...lols.

2005-12-13 [kay-chan]: Erm... if you really want to do that... Nobody can touch me wiki here, but if you feel the need to make a new wiki to show me examples, I can't and won't stop you. ^.^;;

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: No, I dont want to touch your wiki behind your back or anything, I dont want to show you examples, I just wanna make you links^_^...yah know, instead of just having it say literacy at the top, and then you look down to find literacy, and ect-so on, I will make that literacy into a link, adn it will directly take you to that entry about literacy, so on and so forth for all. As well as making the sections more obvious. If you dont want to have any of these thigns at all, ie...if you know right now, that any revisions from anyone besides yourself are pointless and you will not accept them, then just lemme know and I will skip it. I am just, I dunno...doing something to occupy my time.

2005-12-13 [kay-chan]: Ha, well, when I sit down to do this, I can probably figure all of this out (dividers, bolding, etc)... This wiki is pretty old. The revisions will be standard. Don't want you to waste your time, or anything...

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: lols, waste my time? and, your not adding in the linkage!! you must have the linkage!! (no you dont, I just wanna practice using the psuedo html codes, and this would be my oppourtunity.) Believe me, this is not a waste of your time...dont worry loyls.

2005-12-13 [Slinky]: um, no offense fizby, but it's not that difficult to make links. you're making it sound as though copy/pasting will be doing kay a great favor. i'm sure she's perfectly capable of organizing her own wiki, and she's just too polite to tell you so herself.

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: No, I know she's perfectly capable of organizing it herself, and I am well aware of the simplicity of link creation. I am not trying to do her a favor, I am simply doing this because I want to, It's not as though this has any value, and I will probably just do it on my own anyway because I feel like it.

2005-12-13 [Slinky]: well if you're just gonna do it anyways, which kay pointed out before she can't stop you from doing, then why bother asking her permission?

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: I am not really asking her permission to freely copy her page and alter it on my own time, just asking if she had any use for bolded titles and links in her page, and didn't care if I was the one to do it, or if she was. ie...instead of doing it on her own, I would do it, and she could take it from me. Just because she wouldn't have to spend her time then lols,...If she would rather do it on her own obviously I have no say in that,...and I dont care either way. She can take mine, or make her own. Just letting her know, I will be making my own weather or not she wants it, so if she does want it, she can have it. Okay, I am hyper active and I am finding something to do...

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: that was my purpose,...I found a link to this wiki, came and cheacked some of it out and decided I really liked it, it was useful very much to new rp'ers, It would have been useful to me if I had found it when I was a noobie. I wanted to use it as an instrumental tool for the rp'ers that come to wiki's I roleplay in or just in general, and simply wanted to make the page a little easier for people to read through. If my presence is so unwanted I will stop talking here, I didn't mean to pester anyone. Simply ranting on about nothing...

2005-12-13 [Slinky]: honey, there's no need to turn yourself into a martyr. if you were unwelcome, you would have been told such and your comments deleted. the only thing unwelcome is the presumtuous attitude. if you're really so bored, might i suggest finding a new RPG to join? there are plenty on elftown, and i'm sure they can occupy your time for much longer than creating your own copy of this page.

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: Lols, god, I dont want to be a matyr, and I dont want every second thing I say turned against me. Apparently I am bothering you, or you wouldn't care so much as to divert my current endeavours. But then again, who am I to tell you what you are and are not doing. Well, I suppose the same as you are to tell that to me. I dunno about you...but I feel that just finding a new rp, isn't quite as easily said as done. But don't worry, I have other thigns I can do, I just went off on a tangent on this wiki, and even to a point of being uncharacteristically loopy. It was random and unwanted and yes, quite presumptious. Whatever, lols...continuing to converse on the source of my actions, as well

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: -as there desired affects is proving to be fruitless. So, I suppose, well I dont quite know now do I. The page will be changed, or the page wont be changed. Does it change anything? Does it change what? What would it change? nothing probably, other than the page itself ofcourse. Well, I dont know what I am talking about anymore, and it's late here. So I bid you all adios and say seeya later. I suppose I will simply do nothing now.

2005-12-13 [kay-chan]: Adieu... I'll change the page later... No worries. ^.^;; Long wall of paragraph arguments. Me tired now. Brain hurt. sleeep is gooooood.

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: yeah, I totally just made an ass out of myself ^_^...Thats what happens when I stay up to 2:00...while eating thosands of MnM's and drinking half a gallon of apple juice, and eating a bag of sun chips. That combination always gets to me...

2005-12-13 [kay-chan]: Awww... Yeah, I did that out in the hallway just now. XP

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: lols...I can stay up normally and have no problem...just as long as I dont eat anything.

2005-12-13 [Dark Adherent]: > Lots of stuff said over night...I've never seen this wiki get this kind of action XD

2005-12-13 [kay-chan]: Hee, you should see it when we take it to bars. XP

2005-12-13 [Fizban]: hah! lols...I am sure it's always a hit.

2005-12-14 [Fizban]: hmmms...last night i was just a little over-excited. Tonight I would like to ask you if I could copy paste this on E12, for begginer rp'ers, and well begginner everythign there lols. I think it would be quite instrumental, and I really dont feel like writing one up myself. I would be glad to a credit the elftown member [kay-chan] if you disagree thats fine, I will simply have to get around to writing one up myself, but I am lazy and to me there is little point in doing the work that someone else has already completed if I dont have to and it would make a difference in quality if I used yours, than taking forever to make my own.

2005-12-14 [kay-chan]: You can either link to this page or you can make up one of your own, but I don't really feel comfortable with someone just copy-pasting the whole thing. If you wish to link it, and this is another site you're talking about, this page is exported: http://elftown.lysator.liu.se/_how%20to%20rp

2005-12-14 [Fizban]: the page is exported? Okies:), I didnt know it was exported, you dont know about elf12? I will either link it or just make my own...thats perfectly fine.

2005-12-14 [kay-chan]: Oh.... elf12. I was confused for a second. Elftown for 12 and under. Okay, gotcha.

2005-12-15 [Fizban]: roights;)

2006-01-09 [nemeroth]: does any one no any good rp wiki pages here? If so please message me. I'd appreciate it.

2006-07-05 [og_ghost]: The only real annoyance is that a page like this even has to exist in the first place.

2006-07-05 [kay-chan]: And I'm not going to deny that. I mean, roleplaying seems pretty straightforward... But some people aren't as good as it to begin with and just need a little help.

2007-11-05 [Erubeus]: =o
You misspelled eight words...
but very informative..

2007-11-05 [Erubeus]: And no, I'm not trying to be a wise ass.

2007-11-05 [kay-chan]: Me, neither, but if you read things and count the misspellings, I'm sorry... That's kind of sad.

If you want to be, like, HELPFUL then you could tell me what I misspelled instead of just generally mentioning stuff.

2007-11-05 [Erubeus]: kickass = kick ass
Forgotten apostrophes in don't and you're.
Anywho = Any who
Unassociated is spelled 'unassociated'
Judgment is spelled without an 'e'
Accidently is spelled 'accidentally'
Ditzy is spelled with an 's'

2007-11-06 [Slinky]: the three slang words are fine as is. Ditzy can be spelled either with a z or an s, but is more commonly spelled with the z. kickass and anywho can be spelled as separate words, as hyphenates, or as compound words.

2007-11-06 [kay-chan]: Thank you English major.

"Unassociated is spelled 'unassociated'": Apparently I already know this because you type them exactly the same.

And maybe later when I'm not feeling so "I don't give a shit" I'll go through each paragraph individually and find the misspellings that you, once again, vaguely pointed out.

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